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Zoom H2n
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2011-12-15 23:09:19 UTC
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Anyone used a Zoom H2n yet? I'm interested in the 'surround sound' option.
Can the 'Audio Montage' section of Wavelab LE7 do anything with the two
stereo tracks of the H2n 'surround' option?
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icarusi
2012-01-07 23:25:38 UTC
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Anyone used a Zoom H2n yet? I'm interested in the 'surround sound' option.
Can the 'Audio Montage' section of Wavelab LE7 do anything with the two
stereo tracks of the H2n 'surround' option?
Got one today. The good news, it fires up fairly quickly into 'record' and
starts with a single button press, so will replace my ancient microcassette
for capturing my magic moment gems before my memory fades. It does record
surround sound in 4 or 2 channel (mixed) modes or XY or MS 2 channel stereo.

It's fairly easy to playback the immediate recording but less easy to
playback previous recordings. It has an 'up/down/press' navigation/playback
button which has a very light 'press' spring so not easy to select 'up'. The
recorder's file system seems to only show 4 channel surround files if the
mic setting is 4 channel surround, ditto for 2 channel stereo files. When
you d/l via USB the main folders are '4ch' and 'stereo' with 9 subfolders in
each. You can't move files between the folders on the recorder, just select
folder in advance of recording. The d/l 4ch files show up as a SR001MS.WAV
and SR001XY.WAV pair so you can id which is which. The 'stereo' folder files
can be renamed in the recorder but only 8 digits, the 4ch files can't be
renamed (probably wise).

Although it records in various bitrate WAV format and mp3 (for stereo only)
it's a proprietary format so the SD can't be read directly on a PC, only via
USB (don't know if Zoom have a direct SD reader app like Roland). It can act
as a 2 channel (XY, MS or 2ch surround) audio input via USB and can be
powered via USB PSU (but not powered by a PC other than as storage or audio
input device AFAICS).

It has a tuner and a metronome, 40-250 BPM with 0.1 BPM increments, 0/4-8/4
and 6/8, various audio click, stick, cowbell etc.precount . The metronome is
only audible via the line out so in theory you could record a lengthy part
to a set BPM and later transfer later to a DAW in sync, for accompanyment
(or at least your practice recordings can be in time).

The MS pair are facing forwards with the XY facing rearwards, probably best
for 4ch surround but not ideal for monitoring the display for XY only,
better reversed IMO.

No case/bag or USB cable supplied. 2GB SD (takes up to 32GB, [1mb/stereo
sec. at 44.1k 16bit PCM WAV approx.]) Wavelab LE and alkiline batteries
supplied. Camera tripod mount thread underside, ext 3.5mm mic input for XY
only. 2.5mm input for remote (not supplied but record/pause/mark on stereo
jack).

Sound quality, so far the XY sounding better than the MS but haven't had it
long enough to iknow. Live, good for eaves dropping on public transport
passengers.
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icarusi
2012-01-08 01:28:37 UTC
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Sound quality, so far the XY sounding better than the MS but haven't had
it long enough to iknow.
Just spotted this review so assume the sound quality is good, and does seem
to confirm the H2n is speedier to start than previous Zoom recorders:-

http://www.drivebyhighfive.net/2011/08/26/a-new-audio-toy-reviewing-the-zoom-h2n-recorder/comment-page-1/#comment-7922

BTW there is a free Zoom d/l VST plug-in for MS to stereo decoding. There's
a Zoom 4ch-surround to DTS and 5.1WAV but not free. No equivalent of
Roland's 'BR' direct SD decoding software either (AFAICS).
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uiop99
2012-01-08 14:09:02 UTC
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Although it records in various bitrate WAV format and mp3 (for stereo only)
it's a proprietary format so the SD can't be read directly on a PC, only via
USB (don't know if Zoom have a direct SD reader app like Roland).
Are you sure of this? I have the H2 (not 'n') and I just pop the SD into
the laptop's card reader and access the files. In fact I often forget to
put the SD back in the Zoom so when it's time to record that important
gig or rehearsal... "DOH!"
It would be strange that in the newer version they would change it into
a proprietary format.
2012-01-09 00:30:28 UTC
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Although it records in various bitrate WAV format and mp3 (for stereo only)
it's a proprietary format so the SD can't be read directly on a PC, only via
USB (don't know if Zoom have a direct SD reader app like Roland).
Are you sure of this? I have the H2 (not 'n') and I just pop the SD into
the laptop's card reader and access the files. In fact I often forget to
put the SD back in the Zoom so when it's time to record that important gig
or rehearsal... "DOH!"
It would be strange that in the newer version they would change it into a
proprietary format.
It's not mentioned in the manual but the the H2N SDs can be read in a PC but
not straightforward. I tried first in a netbook but nothing recognised, then
in a USB stick adapter in a different computer, same, then in a USB card
reader which saw the files but locked when I tried to open the second
folder. When I put the card back in the H2n all the files were gone and the
card needed reformatting. I tried formatting first in the PC but it locked
again, then in the H2n, ok.

I tried again in the netbook which I use in hibernate mode, so tried again
after a restart and the card and new test files were recognised. I
reformatted in the netbook and the H2n accepted the card ok.

So probably best to check any SD card/formatting/reader/PC/OS combination
before recording anything vital, if you intend to use an SD reader other
than the H2n, otherwise you could lose the files.
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