Fender solid state amps for jazz players?

[JJNeet1]

I have recently bought a Fender Deluxe 112 Plus from ebay,and its a
pretty good amp.Its resonabbly light in weight-about 34 pounds,but packs a
wollop! I belive its rated at 95 watts rms.I have a 50 watt all tube Crate amp
that weighs 54 pounds on my scales.The Fender has a really good clean sound,and
the "distortion" (or whatever they call it) chanell can be adjusted to be very
subtle,or more of a raging distortion sound.I can't think of another amp that I
know of that is ths light with this much power available.I can't imagin this
amp not being able to handle a club situation. I know I've seen many posts here
about jazz players using Peavey solid state amps,and Rolland Jazz Chorus
amps,but what about the Fender solid state amps-anyone using one of these?

Thanks, Jon Neet
Really a blues player,but loves jazz music also

[GARY BECK]

I have a Princeton 65 that i use all the time. I have a Twin a 4X10 Bassman
and an Evans with a 15". I get tired of lugging the big stuff to solo gigs.
Margret Wilson of this group who has a deluxe suggested i put in a Celestion
speaker in place of the crap speaker Fender puts out. Best advise i ever
got. the Celestion warms up the sound like I couldn't believe. I love mine
and it sounds great with all my Heritage guitars and my back loves it the
most. Gary Beck

Post by JJNeet1
I have recently bought a Fender Deluxe 112 Plus from ebay,and its a
pretty good amp.Its resonabbly light in weight-about 34 pounds,but packs a
wollop! I belive its rated at 95 watts rms.I have a 50 watt all tube Crate amp
that weighs 54 pounds on my scales.The Fender has a really good clean sound,and
the "distortion" (or whatever they call it) chanell can be adjusted to be very
subtle,or more of a raging distortion sound.I can't think of another amp that I
know of that is ths light with this much power available.I can't imagin this
amp not being able to handle a club situation. I know I've seen many posts here
about jazz players using Peavey solid state amps,and Rolland Jazz Chorus
amps,but what about the Fender solid state amps-anyone using one of these?
Thanks, Jon Neet
Really a blues player,but loves jazz music also

[Norman Karin]

Gary (or Margaret), which Celestion did you get?

Norm

Post by GARY BECK
I have a Princeton 65 that i use all the time. I have a Twin a 4X10 Bassman
and an Evans with a 15". I get tired of lugging the big stuff to solo gigs.
Margret Wilson of this group who has a deluxe suggested i put in a Celestion
speaker in place of the crap speaker Fender puts out.

[Margaret Wilson]

I *had* a Deluxe 90, and I recommended the Celestion that comes stock with
that amp. Can't remember which one, now. Glad you like it, Gary. :-) My
current SS amp is a Roland Cube 30. Geez, I'm fickle. ;-)

Regards,

Margaret

Post by GARY BECK
I have a Princeton 65 that i use all the time. I have a Twin a 4X10 Bassman
and an Evans with a 15". I get tired of lugging the big stuff to solo gigs.
Margret Wilson of this group who has a deluxe suggested i put in a Celestion
speaker in place of the crap speaker Fender puts out. Best advise i ever
got. the Celestion warms up the sound like I couldn't believe. I love mine
and it sounds great with all my Heritage guitars and my back loves it the
most. Gary Beck

Post by JJNeet1
I have recently bought a Fender Deluxe 112 Plus from ebay,and

its

Post by GARY BECK
a

Post by JJNeet1
pretty good amp.Its resonabbly light in weight-about 34 pounds,but packs a
wollop! I belive its rated at 95 watts rms.I have a 50 watt all tube

Crate

Post by GARY BECK
amp

Post by JJNeet1
that weighs 54 pounds on my scales.The Fender has a really good clean

sound,and

Post by JJNeet1
the "distortion" (or whatever they call it) chanell can be adjusted to

be

Post by GARY BECK
very

Post by JJNeet1
subtle,or more of a raging distortion sound.I can't think of another amp

that I

Post by JJNeet1
know of that is ths light with this much power available.I can't imagin

this

Post by JJNeet1
amp not being able to handle a club situation. I know I've seen many

posts

Post by GARY BECK
here

Post by JJNeet1
about jazz players using Peavey solid state amps,and Rolland Jazz Chorus
amps,but what about the Fender solid state amps-anyone using one of these?
Thanks, Jon Neet
Really a blues player,but loves jazz music also

[PJBMHB]

i saw bern nix, harmalodic jazz guitarist play w/ a princeton ss amp and he
definitely suffered from guitar flatulence. i don't know if this inherent in
the amp or if it was just not dialed in properly. i know that the big fender
chorus amps have a nice sound and their chorus sounds a lot better than
anything i have ever heard from a roland jazz chorus.
=-) PJ

[Jack A. Zucker]

I had a hard time with the SS fender amps in the current lineup. They are
overrated in terms of their output power in my opinion. I would estimate the
true power to be about 75% of the rated power.
--
web: http://www.jazguitar.com
Soundclips: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/2/jackzuckermusic.htm

Post by PJBMHB
i saw bern nix, harmalodic jazz guitarist play w/ a princeton ss amp and he
definitely suffered from guitar flatulence. i don't know if this inherent in
the amp or if it was just not dialed in properly. i know that the big fender
chorus amps have a nice sound and their chorus sounds a lot better than
anything i have ever heard from a roland jazz chorus.
=-) PJ

[Charlie Robinson]

Post by Jack A. Zucker
I had a hard time with the SS fender amps in the current lineup. They are
overrated in terms of their output power in my opinion. I would estimate the
true power to be about 75% of the rated power.
Jack A. Zucker

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I have been giging quite a bit lately with a little 30w Fender Champion. I got
it primarily for solo guitar gigs but liked it so much I've been using it when
I play with groups and so far have had no problems (there is another amp in my
trunk just in case). I never thought I'd see the day when I'd use a 30w amp for
anything other than recording but this one seems to fill the bill. It is rugged
as hell (it survived a fall down a flight of escalator stairs the first time I
used it). The tone is fairly decent for a transistor amp. For the money it is
the best little amp that I've had in years.
Charlie Robinson Jazz Guitarist, Composer
You can hear me online at: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/robinsonchazz
or http://www.soundclick.com/bands/rmmgj_music.htm

[Steven Rosenberg]

I just happened to try out both the Champion 30 and the Princeton 65,
and both seemed to be pretty good amps. Tone controls were quite
responsive. However, I didn't really crank them up to see where they
start to lose headroom.

Post by Charlie Robinson

Post by Jack A. Zucker
I had a hard time with the SS fender amps in the current lineup. They are
overrated in terms of their output power in my opinion. I would estimate the
true power to be about 75% of the rated power.
Jack A. Zucker

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I have been giging quite a bit lately with a little 30w Fender Champion. I got
it primarily for solo guitar gigs but liked it so much I've been using it when
I play with groups and so far have had no problems (there is another amp in my
trunk just in case). I never thought I'd see the day when I'd use a 30w amp for
anything other than recording but this one seems to fill the bill. It is rugged
as hell (it survived a fall down a flight of escalator stairs the first time I
used it). The tone is fairly decent for a transistor amp. For the money it is
the best little amp that I've had in years.
Charlie Robinson Jazz Guitarist, Composer
You can hear me online at: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/robinsonchazz
or http://www.soundclick.com/bands/rmmgj_music.htm

[Charlie Robinson]

Post by Steven Rosenberg
I just happened to try out both the Champion 30 and the Princeton 65,
and both seemed to be pretty good amps. Tone controls were quite
responsive. However, I didn't really crank them up to see where they
start to lose headroom.

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I just played a gig Sunday with the Champion. It was a 5 piece group, trumpet
and tenor plus rhythm. I had the volume on 7 and the gain on 2 and there were
no problems. This is the way that it has gone with other groups.But as I said
there is always a more powerful amp in my trunk just in case.

Charlie Robinson Jazz Guitarist, Composer
You can hear me online at: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/robinsonchazz
or http://www.soundclick.com/bands/rmmgj_music.htm

[BREZ9091]

i have a fender princeton 112 plus. using the gain channel, with the gain on
only slightly, at about 1, contour at 5, bass, treble,reverb all on 2. this
gives you a great sound for playing at home, with a full size archtop. light as
a feather too. great grant green sound too.

[Mark Smart]

Post by JJNeet1
I have recently bought a Fender Deluxe 112 Plus from ebay,and its a
pretty good amp.Its resonabbly light in weight-about 34 pounds,but packs a
wollop! I belive its rated at 95 watts rms.I have a 50 watt all tube Crate amp
that weighs 54 pounds on my scales.The Fender has a really good clean sound,and
the "distortion" (or whatever they call it) chanell can be adjusted to be very
subtle,or more of a raging distortion sound.I can't think of another amp that I
know of that is ths light with this much power available.I can't imagin this
amp not being able to handle a club situation. I know I've seen many posts here
about jazz players using Peavey solid state amps,and Rolland Jazz Chorus
amps,but what about the Fender solid state amps-anyone using one of these?
Thanks, Jon Neet
Really a blues player,but loves jazz music also

I have been using a Fender Stage 160 (non-DSP version) for several
years. Very powerful clean amp. Do a Google search on here for "Fender
Stage 160" to see comments I've made about it in the past.

One problem other users and I have had is that it's so powerful, it's
hard to get a good sound at low volume. Recently I figured out a
solution to this...I use two cables to connect an Ernie Ball 25K
volume pedal (gotta have the lower-resistance pedal or it doesn't work
very well) in between the effects send and return jacks...instant
master volume control with a really nice response curve. I use it that
way at gigs; the pedal affects the clean and distorted channels
equally.

Great amp. I've used it to play clean jazz in a movie-theater-sized
venue with a loud band and no PA system. It had no problem filling the
room.

Mark Smart
www.marksmart.net