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Nick Lucas jazz chord instruction book?
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Blind Broccoli
2004-07-31 17:45:46 UTC
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I'm not even sure if it *was* Nick Lucas's "system" or not but I saw this
thin booklet a "few" years ago in some "old stuff bin" in some music store,
and to this day I have preferred the chord formations and fingerings I found
therein to any others I've seen but I only learned a small number of these
before I either lost the booklet or lost interest, I'm not sure which. At
any rate, anybody know what booklet I'm talking about? I'd like to get it.

As I recall a lot of the chords went all the way across the neck but used
left finger muting of some of the in-between strings quite often. Good
comping chord formations (or vocal accompaniment). Easier than some systems
to make the changes fast, as many old standards seem to require.

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Gerry
2004-07-31 23:16:25 UTC
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Post by Blind Broccoli
I'm not even sure if it *was* Nick Lucas's "system" or not but I saw this
thin booklet a "few" years ago in some "old stuff bin" in some music store,
and to this day I have preferred the chord formations and fingerings I found
therein to any others I've seen but I only learned a small number of these
before I either lost the booklet or lost interest, I'm not sure which. At
any rate, anybody know what booklet I'm talking about? I'd like to get it.
As I recall a lot of the chords went all the way across the neck but used
left finger muting of some of the in-between strings quite often. Good
comping chord formations (or vocal accompaniment). Easier than some systems
to make the changes fast, as many old standards seem to require.
Nick Lucas certainly had an olde guitar method that was available for
many a year. So did Eddie Lang and Mel Bay. I got some of my best
chord instruction from Vincent Bredice. I assume that most of them
provided the same general information.

I found a great deal of liberation (and continue to do so) by endlessly
*reducing* the number of notes i'm playing, rather than playing notes
that go "all the way across the neck". Clearly I'm still playing
pieces of these same chords, but in selecting subsets I'm more
specifically targeting my needs.

You don't have the book any more. Would you recognize it If I scan'd a
page?
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thomas
2004-08-01 20:38:54 UTC
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Have you tried the old standby first jazz chord book: Mickey Baker?
Post by Blind Broccoli
I'm not even sure if it *was* Nick Lucas's "system" or not but I saw this
thin booklet a "few" years ago in some "old stuff bin" in some music store,
and to this day I have preferred the chord formations and fingerings I found
therein to any others I've seen but I only learned a small number of these
before I either lost the booklet or lost interest, I'm not sure which. At
any rate, anybody know what booklet I'm talking about? I'd like to get it.
As I recall a lot of the chords went all the way across the neck but used
left finger muting of some of the in-between strings quite often. Good
comping chord formations (or vocal accompaniment). Easier than some systems
to make the changes fast, as many old standards seem to require.
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Blind Broccoli
2004-08-02 18:07:58 UTC
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Post by thomas
Have you tried the old standby first jazz chord book: Mickey Baker?
no i haven't! i'll check it out...


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Peter Huggins
2004-08-02 20:23:12 UTC
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There is much more to this man than just "Tip-Toe Thru` The Tulips". . .
Nick Lucas was a great guitarist and a very special guy, in many ways he
was the first 'Guitar Hero'. He recorded the first guitar solos with a
pick, "Teasin` the Frets" b/w "Pickin` the Guitar" , in 1921 ! He was
the first Gibson endorsee to have a guitar named for him, and even today
many players and collectors consider the Gibson Nick Lucas Special model
to be the best flat top ever made.

The Nick Lucas Plectrum Guitar Method (Vols. I, II, III) are still
valuable references that can be found on ebay from time to time for
reasonable costs. There`s also a "Nick Lucas Hawaiian Guitar Method" as
well. If you have never heard the man play, you should check out the
original recordings from the `20s and `30s (reissued on CD on the UK
label ASV Living Era); also, there is a recent CD of radio
transcriptions done in the `40s where he is accompanied only by his solo
guitar and a bass (no orchestra), on the Soundies label; these are
exceptional in relation to his guitar work. Every guitarist has
something to learn from Nick Lucas !




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Blind Broccoli
2004-08-03 18:00:43 UTC
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Thanks for this. The three book instruction series are what I was referring
to in my original post, although I think I only saw one of them.

I'm going to go hunting for some of this stuff.

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Post by Peter Huggins
There is much more to this man than just "Tip-Toe Thru` The Tulips". . .
Nick Lucas was a great guitarist and a very special guy, in many ways he
was the first 'Guitar Hero'. He recorded the first guitar solos with a
pick, "Teasin` the Frets" b/w "Pickin` the Guitar" , in 1921 ! He was
the first Gibson endorsee to have a guitar named for him, and even today
many players and collectors consider the Gibson Nick Lucas Special model
to be the best flat top ever made.
The Nick Lucas Plectrum Guitar Method (Vols. I, II, III) are still
valuable references that can be found on ebay from time to time for
reasonable costs. There`s also a "Nick Lucas Hawaiian Guitar Method" as
well. If you have never heard the man play, you should check out the
original recordings from the `20s and `30s (reissued on CD on the UK
label ASV Living Era); also, there is a recent CD of radio
transcriptions done in the `40s where he is accompanied only by his solo
guitar and a bass (no orchestra), on the Soundies label; these are
exceptional in relation to his guitar work. Every guitarist has
something to learn from Nick Lucas !
Grins, Peter
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Blind Broccoli
2004-08-02 18:16:27 UTC
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I got your email but I sent my reply to your spam trap. So public thanks,
but don't go to the trouble of scanning that page; I'll find it if I find
it. There are lots of other sources for the information; it's more of a
nostalgia thing.

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