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REAL BOOK WITH VERSES
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charlieguitar
2020-10-22 19:11:47 UTC
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A while back I was reading about a Real Book that includes the verses to the tunes but can't remember it's name. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
Gerry
2020-10-23 00:28:54 UTC
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Post by charlieguitar
A while back I was reading about a Real Book that includes the verses
to the tunes but can't remember it's name. Does anyone know what I'm
talking about?
No, I do not. Was "a while back" like six years or something?

Sher Publications "New Real Book - Standards" has quite a few of those verses.
charlieguitar
2020-10-23 03:07:07 UTC
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Post by charlieguitar
A while back I was reading about a Real Book that includes the verses
to the tunes but can't remember it's name. Does anyone know what I'm
talking about?
No, I do not. Was "a while back" like six years or something?
Sher Publications "New Real Book - Standards" has quite a few of those verses.
it seems like it was within the last three years. The one you mentioned might be it. I'll check it out. Thanks CR
Joey Goldstein
2020-10-23 13:55:21 UTC
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Post by charlieguitar
A while back I was reading about a Real Book that includes the verses to the tunes but can't remember it's name. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
The Sher Standards Real Book has the verses for most of its charts.
John
2020-10-23 17:01:32 UTC
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Not quite as convenient, but I don't think I've ever googled lyrics and not found them.
Gerry
2020-10-24 05:48:50 UTC
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Post by John
Not quite as convenient, but I don't think I've ever googled lyrics and not found them.
He's not talking about "lyrics" but what use to be called the "verse",
that introductory part of a Broadway tune that allowed the singer to
get upstage, the lights to shift, etc. What Ira Gershwin use to call
"the vest".
John
2020-10-24 17:25:59 UTC
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Not quite as convenient, but I don't think I've ever googled lyrics and not found them.
He's not talking about "lyrics" but what use to be called the "verse",
that introductory part of a Broadway tune that allowed the singer to
get upstage, the lights to shift, etc. What Ira Gershwin use to call
"the vest".
Aha. Just think, I actually learned something. Sorry for the bandwidth.

John R.
Gerry
2020-10-25 00:34:27 UTC
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Not quite as convenient, but I don't think I've ever googled lyrics and not found them.
He's not talking about "lyrics" but what use to be called the "verse",
that introductory part of a Broadway tune that allowed the singer to
get upstage, the lights to shift, etc. What Ira Gershwin use to call
"the vest".
Aha. Just think, I actually learned something. Sorry for the bandwidth.
For well over 70 years folk songs and the pop and rock songs that
followed them used the terms "verse" for the part of the lyric this
isn't repeated, and "chorus" for the repeated part. Your mistake was
only in the narrow context of Broadway tunes of a certain period. I
think they did away with this by the 60's.

The reason Ira Gershwin called it "the vest" was this: It's not a
jacket, it's not a shirt, what the hell it is it? It's the totally
superflous and unnecessary part.

And as sheet music proves, it is as thoroughly forgotten as a publisher
can make it.
charlieguitar
2020-10-25 14:49:55 UTC
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Not quite as convenient, but I don't think I've ever googled lyrics and
not found them.
He's not talking about "lyrics" but what use to be called the "verse",
that introductory part of a Broadway tune that allowed the singer to
get upstage, the lights to shift, etc. What Ira Gershwin use to call
"the vest".
Aha. Just think, I actually learned something. Sorry for the bandwidth.
For well over 70 years folk songs and the pop and rock songs that
followed them used the terms "verse" for the part of the lyric this
isn't repeated, and "chorus" for the repeated part. Your mistake was
only in the narrow context of Broadway tunes of a certain period. I
think they did away with this by the 60's.
The reason Ira Gershwin called it "the vest" was this: It's not a
jacket, it's not a shirt, what the hell it is it? It's the totally
superflous and unnecessary part.
And as sheet music proves, it is as thoroughly forgotten as a publisher
can make it.
They were show tunes remember and the verse was a part of the the play that usually introduced whatever was being expressed in the main body of the tune. Sometimes the verse was better than the tune that it introduced. I remember years ago there was a lot of argument in this group as to whether they should be called verses at all (how could there be a second verse etc.). Anyway thanks to Gerry, Joey (long time no see)and John for the advice on books. Charlie
dunlop212
2020-12-04 20:39:47 UTC
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Post by charlieguitar
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Not quite as convenient, but I don't think I've ever googled lyrics and
not found them.
He's not talking about "lyrics" but what use to be called the "verse",
that introductory part of a Broadway tune that allowed the singer to
get upstage, the lights to shift, etc. What Ira Gershwin use to call
"the vest".
Aha. Just think, I actually learned something. Sorry for the bandwidth.
For well over 70 years folk songs and the pop and rock songs that
followed them used the terms "verse" for the part of the lyric this
isn't repeated, and "chorus" for the repeated part. Your mistake was
only in the narrow context of Broadway tunes of a certain period. I
think they did away with this by the 60's.
The reason Ira Gershwin called it "the vest" was this: It's not a
jacket, it's not a shirt, what the hell it is it? It's the totally
superflous and unnecessary part.
And as sheet music proves, it is as thoroughly forgotten as a publisher
can make it.
They were show tunes remember and the verse was a part of the the play that usually introduced whatever was being expressed in the main body of the tune. Sometimes the verse was better than the tune that it introduced. I remember years ago there was a lot of argument in this group as to whether they should be called verses at all (how could there be a second verse etc.). Anyway thanks to Gerry, Joey (long time no see)and John for the advice on books. Charlie
https://www.amazon.com/Just-Standards-Real-Book-Fakebook/dp/0757901611 (the "Just Jazz" one has the verses too).
Pretty expensive though. I bought them years ago because of the big print and alternate changes.
ionah...@gmail.com
2020-12-31 00:41:37 UTC
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Post by charlieguitar
A while back I was reading about a Real Book that includes the verses to the tunes but can't remember it's name. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
I have an old fakebook that I bought in the 80s that has the verses. It’s my favorite fakebook, and while I lost the cover many years ago, it was called something like America’s Favorite Standards. It’s gold.
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