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van
2009-03-01 17:17:00 UTC
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Here's another example of the great folk-jazz fusion that was going on
in the early 1970s:


Nick Droik played in a dixieland band in college in the UK and loved
Satchmo.
Kenny Rankin, Judee Sill, Tim Buckley, The Youngbloods and Buzzy
Linhardt were others that were heavily jazz-influenced.
Were there others?
That arrogant, young pianist who publicly put down Bill Evans in an
NPR interview (where do you think you got most of your voicings from,
Bradster?), Brad Mildew, did a cover of this.
Sure, it's only a few chords, but there are other things going on
as well- the time signature, added note chords in the orchestral
arrangement etc..Quiz question- to those of you that haven't heard it
before- what is the time signature?
Gerry
2009-03-01 17:58:18 UTC
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Post by van
That arrogant, young pianist who publicly put down Bill Evans in an
NPR interview (where do you think you got most of your voicings from,
Bradster?), Brad Mildew, did a cover of this.
To remind me of my own pompous and arrogant youth, I'd love to
hear/read that. Can you direct me?
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Dogmatism kills jazz. Iconoclasm kills rock. Rock dulls scissors.
c***@gmail.com
2009-03-01 20:57:39 UTC
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Post by van
That arrogant, young pianist who publicly put down Bill Evans in an
NPR interview (where do you think you got most of your voicings from,
Bradster?), Brad Mildew, did a cover of this.
To remind me of my own pompous and arrogant youth, I'd love to
hear/read that.  Can you direct me?
--
Dogmatism kills jazz. Iconoclasm kills rock. Rock dulls scissors.
i don't think he really put Evans down......he just hated being
compared to him as a young white virtuoso jazz pianist and said he
didn't even consider Bill ,directly , to be an influence.
Gerry
2009-03-01 23:40:49 UTC
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Post by Gerry
Post by van
That arrogant, young pianist who publicly put down Bill Evans in an
NPR interview (where do you think you got most of your voicings from,
Bradster?), Brad Mildew, did a cover of this.
To remind me of my own pompous and arrogant youth, I'd love to
hear/read that.  Can you direct me?
i don't think he really put Evans down......he just hated being
compared to him as a young white virtuoso jazz pianist and said he
didn't even consider Bill ,directly , to be an influence.
I hope he said "direct influence". Everybody is influenced, one way or
another, by the *results* of Evans, among another 8 or 10 musicians.
--
Dogmatism kills jazz. Iconoclasm kills rock. Rock dulls scissors.
van
2009-03-01 23:57:24 UTC
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Post by Gerry
Post by van
That arrogant, young pianist who publicly put down Bill Evans in an
NPR interview (where do you think you got most of your voicings from,
Bradster?), Brad Mildew, did a cover of this.
To remind me of my own pompous and arrogant youth, I'd love to
hear/read that.  Can you direct me?
--
Dogmatism kills jazz. Iconoclasm kills rock. Rock dulls scissors.
i don't think he really put Evans down......he just hated being
compared to him as a young white virtuoso jazz pianist and said he
didn't even consider Bill ,directly , to be an influence.
Gerry- you can find it on an interview done with him on a show called
Studio 360. I know you can find it in their archives because I told it
to a guy in the Steely Dan online thing and he couldn't believe it, so
he cut and pasted it there. Go to the NPR website.

While it's true that he didn't like being compared to Evans, he also
said he didn't think Evans was a very good jazz pianist(!)
The interviewer was astonished!
Tom- Yeah, I can't believe I forgot Pentangle! And Donovan's "Sunny
Goodge St.("Mingus mellow magic"), and Tim Hardin's "Misty Roses"
Have you heard any of Judee Sill's stuff from the early 70s?
Not overtly jazzy, but she was another jazz junkie (she played upright
bass) like the two Tims and Rankin.
t***@gmail.com
2009-03-01 18:58:12 UTC
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Post by van
Here's another example of the great folk-jazz fusion that was going on
in the early http://youtu.be/eEAsZa4Qz2Y
Nick Droik played in a dixieland band in college in the UK and loved
Satchmo.
Kenny Rankin, Judee Sill, Tim Buckley, The Youngbloods and Buzzy
Linhardt were others that were heavily jazz-influenced.
Were there others?
Tim Harden was another. A lot of British guys: John Renbourn, Bert
Jansch, Davey Graham, and John Martyn -- even Donovan.

Nick Droik?
van
2009-03-02 00:02:24 UTC
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Post by van
Here's another example of the great folk-jazz fusion that was going on
in the early http://youtu.be/eEAsZa4Qz2Y
Nick Droik played in a dixieland band in college in the UK and loved
Satchmo.
Kenny Rankin, Judee Sill, Tim Buckley, The Youngbloods and Buzzy
Linhardt were others that were heavily jazz-influenced.
Were there others?
Tim Harden was another. A lot of British guys: John Renbourn, Bert
Jansch, Davey Graham, and John Martyn -- even Donovan.
Nick Droik?
Yeah, Nick Droik, like in Jimmy Poige ;'0
t***@gmail.com
2009-03-02 13:19:40 UTC
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Post by van
Here's another example of the great folk-jazz fusion that was going on
in the early http://youtu.be/eEAsZa4Qz2Y
Nick Droik played in a dixieland band in college in the UK and loved
Satchmo.
Kenny Rankin, Judee Sill, Tim Buckley, The Youngbloods and Buzzy
Linhardt were others that were heavily jazz-influenced.
Were there others?
Tim Harden was another. A lot of British guys: John Renbourn, Bert
Jansch, Davey Graham, and John Martyn -- even Donovan.
Nick Droik?
Yeah, Nick Droik, like in Jimmy Poige ;'0
Got ya, moite!

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